

And I just wanted to give some nuance to that experience - what it's like to grow up in violence and then try to escape.Īnd for me, it felt like I was talking about myself sometimes. You know, like, I wanted to give some dignity to people who do grow up in these violent circles. Tell us about what you were hoping to explore about music, culture, fame, the other elements that weave into this story. Who killed Chalino Sánchez? But there's a deeper level, too. SHAPIRO: On one level, this podcast is a true crime story. After he recovered, he came into the living room and announced through hard-fought tears, they killed Chalino. All the way out for what felt like an eternity. When he tried to dislodge a stuck Gloria Trevi cassette tape with a filed-down screwdriver, a small electrical current knocked him back.
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But Paul forgot to unplug the portable radio. He didn't say anything, but he was clearly upset and wanted to play a Chalino Sánchez cassette tape in our jammed family boombox. GALINDO: I remember him coming home that day. And, like, for my older brother, Paul (ph), who was, like, a big fan of his, Chalino's death was like a death in the family. GALINDO: I think - so Chalino did something incredible for my family, which is he sort of bridged the gap between my parents, who were immigrants - their culture with our culture here in LA. So when news of his death broke in 1992, how did that land in your household?

SHAPIRO: He was from the same part of Mexico that your family was from, Sinaloa. Most of the time, you have singers trying to pretend they're bad guys. One of the guys I talked to said Chalino was a bad guy trying to be a singer. You know, he - the story goes that he committed his first murder when he was, like, 15. GALINDO: Chalino grew up with, like, narcos. SHAPIRO: So you're saying Chalino is kind of tougher than Tupac, even. And also, you know, Tupac never got into a shootout on stage during one of his shows, which Chalino did. He's like Tupac but for folk music, you know, Spanish folk music. And so if Billy the Kid could write his adventures into songs with the skill of Bob Dylan, that's basically who Chalino was. GALINDO: You know, he actually lived a lot of the life that he sang about. SHAPIRO: Paint a picture for us of what this guy was like. That's more times than Selena Quintanilla's "Bidi Bidi Bom Bom," Frank Sinatra's "Strangers In The Night," even Biggie's hypnotic party anthem "Get Money." His biggest hit, a seminal ode to unrequited love called "Las Nieves De Enero" (ph), which roughly translates to "The Snows Of January," has been streamed nearly 100 million times on the popular music platform as of June 2021. GALINDO: Three decades after his death, more than 2 million listeners still tune into his Spotify channel each month. (SOUNDBITE OF PODCAST, "IDOLO: THE BALLAD OF CHALINO SANCHEZ") SHAPIRO: There's one moment in the first episode of this podcast where you give a sense of this guy's importance for people who might not be familiar with his music. And then you're like, oh, this is a good feeling. But then you calm down, and then you just kind of absorb it. You know, we describe it like maybe the first time you smoked marijuana, where, like, you're like, this hurts.

And he, like, inspires others to think they can sing.Ī lot of people don't like his voice, but eventually it grows on you. But in that way, he's so passionate and real. He really does kind of sound like somebody singing in the shower. GALINDO: Chalino did not have a trained voice.
